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| techtalk:ref:raw01 [2021/03/26 05:22] – [Ironhead Frames - Various XLF Members] hippysmack | techtalk:ref:raw01 [2024/01/20 21:40] (current) – hippysmack | ||
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| - | + | ====== Electrical Compatibility Information ====== | |
| + | submitted by Andy56 ((Post#179 - https:// | ||
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| + | **Oil pressure switch**\\ | ||
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| + | HD part number -- Standard Automotive\\ | ||
| + | - - - - - - - - - - - - - Products part number\\ | ||
| + | 26552-72 - - - - - - MC1801\\ | ||
| + | 26554-77 - - - - - - MC1802\\ | ||
| + | 26561-84 - - - - - - MC1803\\ | ||
| + | 26561-99 - - - - - - MC1804\\ | ||
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| + | **Brush sets**\\ | ||
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| + | HD part number -- Standard Motor\\ | ||
| + | - - - - - - - - - - - - - Products part number\\ | ||
| + | 30426-58 - - - - - - MC2309\\ | ||
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| + | **Starter Relay** TC models (2000-2011) V-ROD (2007-2011)\\ | ||
| + | 31522-00B - - - - - - Durite 0-728-13, Standard Motor Products MC-RLY5\\ | ||
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| + | **Suggested wire sizes** based on continuous load for standard multicore wire\\ | ||
| + | 14 gauge (2.0mm2) 15 Amps\\ | ||
| + | 16 gauge (1.3mm2) 7 Amps\\ | ||
| + | 18 gauge (0.82mm2) 5 Amps\\ | ||
| + | 20 gauge (0.5mm2) 3 Amps\\ | ||
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| + | For lighting 1 watt = 0.07 Amps so a single 21W bulb takes 21x0.07 = 1.47 Amps\\ | ||
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| + | Volt drop calculator for calculating wire size. (maximum acceptable volt drop nomaly 3-4%)\\ | ||
| + | https:// | ||
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| + | But remember the wire size has to be rated to the fuse it has to blow and not necessarily the continuous load.\\ | ||
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| + | ====== Suspension Info by ???? ====== | ||
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| - | http:// | + | https://www.xlforum.net/ |
| - | http:// | + | https://www.xlforum.net/ |
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| | 50185-04 | ~8.5 | | | 50185-04 | ~8.5 | | ||
| - | Pictures of these measurements can be seen in [[http:// | + | Pictures of these measurements can be seen in [[https://www.xlforum.net/ |
| ====== Trickle Charger ====== | ====== Trickle Charger ====== | ||
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| - | | Trickle charger pigtail location on 98 model ((photo by Hippysmack)) | + | | Trickle charger pigtail location on 98 model ((photo by Hippysmack)) |
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| Destination - IH Body Parts | Destination - IH Body Parts | ||
| - | Dr Dick..... | + | |
| - | http:// | + | 1972 and earlier.......... \\ |
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| - | to change | + | piniongear https://www.xlforum.net/ |
| - | using the short frame with hump (long fame) motors will require some kind of solution of side stand contacting primary drain plug and boss. | + | Where the solo seat would go is a cast member that the tubes of the frame connect to. |
| - | the pri drain is a hump motor thing. to intergrate its addition | + | I went out to the shop to look at my 1971 frame in the same location as you showed in your picture. |
| + | Mine is cast as 47650-67. | ||
| + | So my 1971 carries this piece as a 1967 design, same as yours, but mine has a slightly different part nimber in that it is 47650 rather than 47658 as yours is. | ||
| + | This difference I cannot explain. | ||
| + | Frames 1970 through 1972 are the exact same. | ||
| + | In my 1959-1969 service manual the frames | ||
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| + | Monte03 https:// | ||
| + | Neck numbers are not representative. | ||
| + | On pre 70 Sportsters, the year the frame was stamped for use was under the seat right casting, these frames may have sat in a factory rack a year prior.. this is the lug that would be used for the Large Gas Tank.. did you look?? \\ | ||
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| + | ironheadjunkie https:// | ||
| + | If you have a seat boss (circled in red)should be a letter and number Letter = Month & Number = Year. The Suffix numbers XXXX-52 is the year the casting was made. Also what type of upper motor mount do you have, Cast or Pressed Steel? | ||
| + | Your frame looks to be a post 72 from the area circled in red, there should be some numbers on the neck circled in green!!! | ||
| + | The last picture I posted would be along the line of how the frame would look if it was a pre 72. \\ | ||
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| + | 16ouncePBR https:// | ||
| + | My take is that it is a 67-69 XLH frame due to the lack of neck VINS and the -67 casting numbers. 4 | ||
| + | CH frames would not have the dogged legs to accommodate the big electric start batt, etc. 4 | ||
| + | Also know as the start of the long frame Sportsters. \\ | ||
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| + | 1973-1978.........… \\ | ||
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| + | piniongear https:// | ||
| + | In 1973 the frame was changed and the steel casting was eliminated and replaced | ||
| + | See the flat metal ' | ||
| + | The ' | ||
| + | In 1971 many switches were located there, but my 1971 has the switch mounted above the horn on the left side. | ||
| + | This is how it came from the factory and has the different wiring harness to back that up. | ||
| + | H-D mixed and matched with this feature it seems. \\ | ||
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| + | 1979-1985.......... \\ | ||
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| + | Chevelle https:// | ||
| + | Like I stated, I have installed earlier engines in newer frames, but not vice versa. | ||
| + | This does not necessarily apply to his post, just mentioning | ||
| + | If using a 82-84 frame the front plates are larger like the early style, but the 82-84 plates are shaped differently | ||
| + | The same goes for a 82-84 rear motor mount. | ||
| + | The early engine will not fit into a 82-84 w/o the 82-up rear mount. | ||
| + | I assume the same for 77-up engines, they will only fit into 82-up frame w/ 82-up rear mount. | ||
| + | I do not know if a 77-up engine will fit into an earlier frame. | ||
| + | I don't know if a 82-up rear mount in this situation would be needed or not. | ||
| + | I don't know if it will physically fit (the sump) between the frame rails. | ||
| + | I do know a EVO enginewill fit into a 82 frame. | ||
| + | This was only after my buddy attempted to do it. | ||
| + | He was told over and over on different Internet sites that it was impossible. \\ | ||
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