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| techtalk:ih:engctl01a [2023/12/31 17:28] – hippysmack | techtalk:ih:engctl01a [2025/07/28 22:42] (current) – [Breaker Points Seal] hippysmack |
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| ==== Manual Advance Dual Point Circuit Breaker ==== | ==== Manual Advance Dual Point Circuit Breaker ==== |
| ====== Internal Circuit Breaker (71-78) ====== | ====== Internal Circuit Breaker (71-78) ====== |
| | ===== Breaker Points Seal ===== |
| | This is a steel shell radial shaft seal (HD# 11124) installed in the cam cover. \\ |
| | It surrounds and seals #2 cam when the cover is installed. Also used on 1986-2003 model Sportster cam covers. \\ |
| | Dims per XLForum member, Fizzle: \\ |
| | OD 1.570" (39.878mm) |
| | ID 1.050" (26.67mm) |
| | W 0.248" (6.2992mm) |
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| | Other brands include James (JGI-11124), Cometic (C9355), Athena (51-A210), Custom Chrome (54-043). \\ |
| | The rubber shell HD Genuine double lip version is part number (11124-DL). \\ |
| | Other brands include James (JGI-11124-DL). \\ |
| | **NOTE**: __SKF makes a radial shaft seal with a part number of 11124 but that IS NOT AN HD PART NUMBER__. \\ |
| | SKF 11124 IS TOO BIG TO FIT THE COVER and they don't show a compatible seal in their catalog for this application. \\ |
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| | HD Seal (11124): \\ |
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| | {{:techtalk:ih:engmech:1971-2003_nosecone_ignition_seal_11124_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) |
| ===== Roll Pin ===== | ===== Roll Pin ===== |
| AKA "split pins". These are hollow pins that have a split in them and are held in holes by their own spring tension. ((needspeed of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out?t=2003348)) \\ | AKA "split pins". These are hollow pins that have a split in them and are held in holes by their own spring tension. ((needspeed of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out?t=2003348)) \\ |
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| If the bike will backfire, spit and cough very badly with the cam plate adjusted, \\ | If the bike will backfire, spit and cough very badly with the cam plate adjusted, \\ |
| Check for missing, bent or destroyed roll pins on the plate. ((Ferrous Head of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2003348&page=2)) \\ | Check for missing, bent or destroyed roll pins on the plate. ((Ferrous Head of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out/page2?t=2003348&page=2)) \\ |
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| |The 1st roll pin is on the top side of timing \\ plate assembly. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out?t=2003348))|The 2nd roll pin is on the back side of the \\ timing plate assembly. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out?t=2003348))|During installation, the back side roll pin \\ aligns with the notch in the #2 cam ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out?t=2003348))| | |The 1st roll pin is on the top side of timing \\ plate assembly. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out?t=2003348))|The 2nd roll pin is on the back side of the \\ timing plate assembly. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out?t=2003348))|During installation, the back side roll pin \\ aligns with the notch in the #2 cam ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/187639-timing-180-deg-out?t=2003348))| |
| * Auto advance 1st appeared on the 1965 XLH. It was also used on the 1966 XLH also. ((Dr Dick https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/112326-a-photo-catalog-of-ironhead-parts/page22?t=1062720&page=22)) | * Auto advance 1st appeared on the 1965 XLH. It was also used on the 1966 XLH also. ((Dr Dick https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/112326-a-photo-catalog-of-ironhead-parts/page22?t=1062720&page=22)) |
| * For 1967 models, the advance mechanism got changed to the familiar setup and a tach drive was added. ((Dr Dick https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/112326-a-photo-catalog-of-ironhead-parts/page22?t=1062720&page=22)) ((HD Service Bulletin #562A dated May 1, 1969 pg OC-261)) | * For 1967 models, the advance mechanism got changed to the familiar setup and a tach drive was added. ((Dr Dick https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/112326-a-photo-catalog-of-ironhead-parts/page22?t=1062720&page=22)) ((HD Service Bulletin #562A dated May 1, 1969 pg OC-261)) |
| * The -67 ones allow for better low speed around town manners, but they allow a little more 'kickback' than the -69 when hot starting using the button.((Dr Dick http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1062720&page=22)) ((HD Service Bulletin #562A dated May 1, 1969 pg OC-261)) | * The -67 ones allow for better low speed around town manners, but they allow a little more 'kickback' than the -69 when hot starting using the button.((Dr Dick https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/112326-a-photo-catalog-of-ironhead-parts/page22?t=1062720&page=22)) ((HD Service Bulletin #562A dated May 1, 1969 pg OC-261)) |
| * The black -70 springs in these timers don't seem to work nearly as good as when using either -67 or -69. ((Dr Dick https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/112326-a-photo-catalog-of-ironhead-parts/page22?t=1062720&page=22)) | * The black -70 springs in these timers don't seem to work nearly as good as when using either -67 or -69. ((Dr Dick https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/112326-a-photo-catalog-of-ironhead-parts/page22?t=1062720&page=22)) |
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